Minutes

             
E Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2019-28 and Ordinance No. 2019-19: A resolution and ordinance amending the Flagstaff City Code, Title 8, Streets and Public Ways and Title 9, Traffic, Chapter 9-05, Bicycles.         
 
  Multi-Modal Planner Martin Ince provided a PowerPoint presentation that covered the following:
 
CITY CODE REVISIONS
REVISIONS MADE FOLLOWING MAY 28 WORK SESSION
PAVED AND UNPAVED FUTS
TABLE OF DEVICES AND FACILITIES
FUTS TRAIL MAP
NAME, DOB, ADDRESS
OPERATING UNDER THE INFLUENCE
 
The following individuals addressed Council in opposition of the ordinance:
  • Sasha Heinman
  • Risha Vanderway
  • Jim Gibson
  • Sara Gibson
  • Jan Smith
  • Chris Gunn
  • Lindsey Dietrich
  • Mitch Buckingham
  • Justin Inglis
  • Bobby Eccelston
  • Dan Stoffel
  • Anthony Quintile
  • Andres Adanto
  • Ken Lane
  • Miranda Sweet
  • David Actor
  • Kyle Doherty
  • Joseph Armstrong
  • Karin Wadsack
  • Arteck Durham
  • Dan Powell
  • Julie Leid
  • Hardy Stroziek
The following comments were received:
  • Concerned about the biking infrastructure in Flagstaff and pushing more bikes to use unsafe bike lanes because they cannot use the FUTS trails.
  • The ordinance places more barriers to cycling in a community that already has enough barriers.
  • The capacity for harm while bicycling under the influence is only to the rider.
  • So many people use e-bikes to get around for both recreation and work.
  • People have a right to be here and enjoy themselves on their bikes.
  • It is virtually impossible to tell the difference between an e-bike and a regular bike.
  • People ride within the limits and safe and responsible bike riders will be the same on e-bikes.
  • The technology allows many differently-abled people to ride a bike and they should be allowed on the FUTS trails.
  • By limiting e-bikes many would be unable to bike commute anymore.
  • E-bikes are not a safety issue on the trails, e-bikes being limited to the road only is a safety issue.
  • There is not sufficient data that shows e-bikes are more dangerous than regular bikes.
  • There is room on the trails for everyone to enjoy using them whether walking, running, or riding a bike.
  • The City should be doing more to support bike use in Flagstaff, allowing e-bikes on FUTS trails is one such way.
  • The City of Flagstaff should be an example to others on the use of e-bikes and highlight the desire to be a bicycle-friendly community.
  • This is an exercise in looking for a solution to a problem that does not exist.
  • Go by state law, clarify no e-bikes on sidewalks, and treat them like a regular bike.
  • Separating FUTS trails into commuter and recreational categories is not practical, all FUTS trails are commuter.
  • Anything that deters people from getting on a bike is a bad thing.
  • Ruining someone’s life, career, and reputation for riding a bike while intoxicated is not appropriate.
  • Allowing e-bikes on trails is supported by the CAAP.
  • Go with the data and not emotion.
The following individuals addressed Council in favor of the ordinance:
  • Joan Martini
  • Joe Shannon
The following comments were received:
  • Any type of motorized travel should not be allowed on unpaved FUTS trails.
  • It would be a step backwards to allow e-bikes on the non-motorized FUTS trails.
  • The discussion about e-bikes reemphasizes the need for complete roads.
  • Majority of people like the FUTS because it does not have motorized traffic.
Written comment cards in opposition of the ordinance were submitted by the following:
  • Karin Wadsack
  • Leslie L. Barton
  • Jim Gibson
  • Elizabeth Bramer
  • Kurt Barton
  • Karen Malis-Clark
  • Sara Gibson
  • Lillian Santamaria
  • Cynthia McKinnon
  • Elson Miles
  • Artec Durham
Written comment cards in favor of the ordinance were submitted by the following:
  • Ellen Tibbetts
  • Mimi Murov
A break was held from 10:03 p.m. through 10:10 p.m.
 
Councilmember Aslan stated that there is a divide in the community on the issue. He does not see a functional difference between regular bikes and e-bikes and does not believe they should be treated differently. As such, whatever applies to one should apply to all. Flagstaff needs to be leading in the use of e-bikes.
 
Councilmember Odegaard stated that Flagstaff is a multi-modal community and e-bikes are a part of that. Class 1 and 2 e-bikes should be allowed on all FUTS trails. He is thankful that he had the opportunity to experience an e-bike and after using one believes they are not the threat that some believe they are. He does believe that there should be some consequences attached to biking under the influence regardless of bicycle type. Five days in jail and a $250 fine is too harsh but there should be some sort of penalty.
 
Councilmember Salas asked if there is a conflict of interest for Vice Mayor Shimoni in that he owns a bike shop that could profit from the decision made on the issue. Mr. Solomon explained that there is no conflict of interest because there are more than ten similar businesses in Flagstaff. This is referred to as the Rule of Ten within the conflict of interest law.
 
Councilmember Salas stated that Flagstaff embraces the multi-modal transportation system; however, most cyclists feel unsafe on the street and in bike lanes and that is a major issue. She appreciates the value of e-bikes, increasing mobility, enhancing wellness, reducing pollution, and recognizes the financial benefit of e-bikes. Her position about the safety of e-bikes is based on her own experience with not so responsible cyclists. There is no data to suggest that e-bikes are more dangerous and many of her safety concerns have been addressed through the comments made. The focus should be on encouraging self-discipline, education, and bike manners regardless of bike type. Given that, she is willing to consider permitting Class 1 and 2 e-bikes on the FUTS but some FUTS should be designated solely for non-motorized use.
 
Councilmember McCarthy stated that Class 1 and 2 e-bikes should be allowed on the FUTS but he is still concerned that pedestrians will be discouraged to use the trails as a result. He is interested in establishing speed limits and designating certain trails as non-motorized such as Buffalo Park and Mars Hill. He also believes that there should be some penalty for biking under the influence however five days in jail is excessive.
 
Councilmember Whelan stated that providing a truthful name and date of birth is important as is some sort of penalty for biking under the influence but no jail time or large monetary penalties. She requested that the Pedestrian Advisory Committee and the Bicycle Advisory Committee evaluate and identify routes that are solely recreational like Buffalo Park. There needs to be areas for pedestrians to be alone without bike interference. She agreed that Class 1 and 2 e-bikes be allowed on FUTS with the caveat that there be some further discussion about trails that could be used for just pedestrians.
 
Vice Mayor Shimoni stated that he prefers all classes of e-bikes be permitted but he is willing to compromise with Class 1 and 2 only. He believes that much of the concerns can be addressed with education about proper and respectful bike operation. He added that he is open to conversations about some areas that would not allow bikes. Ultimately there needs to be an increased effort to widen the FUTS to accommodate many different types of transportation and improving streets to make them more accessible and safer to cyclists. Any bike share program that comes in needs to be held accountable for their bike placement and docking stations should be highly encouraged. He is not interested in placing any further regulations on bicycles including biking under the influence.
 
A majority of Council agreed to allow Class 1 and 2 e-bikes on all FUTS trails regardless of surface type, allow Class 1 and 2 e-bikes on sidewalks outside of the downtown area, and no regulation on biking under the e-bikes.
 
  Moved by Councilmember Austin Aslan, seconded by Councilmember Charlie Odegaard to read Resolution No. 2019-28 as amended to allow Class 1 and Class 2 e-bikes on FUTS trails, not allow Class 3 e-bikes on sidewalks and FUTS trails, and amend to remove any operating under the influence provisions.
  Vote: 6 - 0 - Unanimously
  A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, DECLARING CERTAIN DOCUMENTS KNOWN AS “THE 2019 AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 8, STREETS AND PUBLIC WAYS AND TITLE 9, TRAFFIC, CHAPTER 9-05, BICYCLES OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY CODE” AS PUBLIC RECORDS
 
  Moved by Councilmember Charlie Odegaard, seconded by Councilmember Austin Aslan to read Ordinance No. 2019-19 by title only for the first time.
  Vote: 6 - 0 - Unanimously


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Scope Variables

CGI Variables:
AUTH_PASSWORD=
AUTH_TYPE=
AUTH_USER=
CERT_COOKIE=
CERT_FLAGS=
CERT_ISSUER=
CERT_KEYSIZE=
CERT_SECRETKEYSIZE=
CERT_SERIALNUMBER=
CERT_SERVER_ISSUER=
CERT_SERVER_SUBJECT=
CERT_SUBJECT=
CF_TEMPLATE_PATH=D:\inetpub\PublicPages\public\publish\print_minutes_popup.cfm
CONTENT_LENGTH=0
CONTENT_TYPE=
CONTEXT_PATH=
GATEWAY_INTERFACE=CGI/1.1
HTTPS=off
HTTPS_KEYSIZE=
HTTPS_SECRETKEYSIZE=
HTTPS_SERVER_ISSUER=
HTTPS_SERVER_SUBJECT=
HTTP_ACCEPT=*/*
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING=
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE=
HTTP_CONNECTION=Keep-Alive
HTTP_COOKIE=
HTTP_HOST=10.20.10.48:8555
HTTP_REFERER=
HTTP_URL=//public/publish/print_minutes_popup.cfm?seq=430&ln=9485&reloaded=false
HTTP_USER_AGENT=claudebot
LOCAL_ADDR=10.20.10.48
PATH_INFO=
PATH_TRANSLATED=D:\inetpub\PublicPages\public\publish\print_minutes_popup.cfm
QUERY_STRING=seq=430&ln=9485&reloaded=false
REMOTE_ADDR=10.20.230.5
REMOTE_HOST=10.20.230.5
REMOTE_USER=
REQUEST_METHOD=GET
SCRIPT_NAME=/public/publish/print_minutes_popup.cfm
SERVER_NAME=10.20.10.48
SERVER_PORT=8555
SERVER_PORT_SECURE=0
SERVER_PROTOCOL=HTTP/1.1
SERVER_SOFTWARE=Microsoft-IIS/10.0
WEB_SERVER_API=
Client Variables:
cfid=8413400
cftoken=b3126fb101bf3e01-514EE380-F899-2A2B-31AFCD1945F60AF6
hitcount=2
lastvisit={ts '2024-03-18 21:19:07'}
timecreated={ts '2024-03-18 21:19:07'}
urltoken=CFID=8413400&CFTOKEN=b3126fb101bf3e01-514EE380-F899-2A2B-31AFCD1945F60AF6
Cookie Variables:
CFID=8413400
CFTOKEN=b3126fb101bf3e01-514EE380-F899-2A2B-31AFCD1945F60AF6
Session Variables:
cfid=8413400
cftoken=b3126fb101bf3e01-514EE380-F899-2A2B-31AFCD1945F60AF6
dbtype=SQLSERVER
dsn=frsRO
extpathprefix=/public/
isexternal=true
logfilepath=d:\logs\
loggedin=false
sessionid=FASPUBLIC_8413400_b3126fb101bf3e01-514EE380-F899-2A2B-31AFCD1945F60AF6
subdir=/public/
tzoffset=0
urltoken=CFID=8413400&CFTOKEN=b3126fb101bf3e01-514EE380-F899-2A2B-31AFCD1945F60AF6
URL Parameters:
ln=9485
reloaded=false
seq=430
Debug Rendering Time: 0 ms